The Two Witnesses

Revelation 11:3-4 begins to tells us that God has two witnesses that will prophesy in the end time. Scripture says:

3 And I will appoint my two witnesses, and they will prophesy for 1,260 days, clothed in sackcloth.” 4 They are “the two olive trees” and the two lampstands, and “they stand before the Lord of the earth.”

So this begs the question, who are the two olive trees and the two lampstands? I believe we are given a clue to who the lampstands are in Revelation 1:20

20 The mystery of the seven stars that you saw in my right hand and of the seven golden lampstands is this: The seven stars are the angels of the seven churches, and the seven lampstands are the seven churches.

So we see here that a lamp stand can represent the church. It should be pointed out that the lamp stand was an integral part of the Tabernacle and later the Temple under the Old Testament. Exodus 25 describes the making of the lamp stand. It is what is called a menorah with three lamps on one side and three on the other and a seventh in the middle. The example shown below  is reconstruction by the temple institute.

According to the description in Exodus 27:20 the fuel for the lamps was pure olive oil of pressed olives. Now isn’t it true that the church is meant to show forth the light of Christ to show the way to Salvation in Him?

So what about the olive tree? Is there any reference in scripture that can possibly explain who the olive represents? Jeremiah 11:16 says:

The LORD called your name, Green Olive Tree, Lovely and of Good Fruit.

The Lord is speaking of how the nation of Israel has fallen away from God’s covenant. God calls Israel an Olive Tree in his exhortation to the nation.

Paul makes a comparison to the Gentiles being grafted into Israel’s promise when he wrote in Romans 11:16

16 For if the firstfruit is holy, the lump is also holy; and if the root is holy, so are the branches. 17 And if some of the branches were broken off, and you, being a wild olive tree, were grafted in among them, and with them became a partaker of the root and fatness of the olive tree,

So then I think we have established clearly that the olive trees represent Israel. In fact the olive oil was also important in the making of a special Holy anointing oil as described in Exodus 30:22-33.

There is one more scriptural reference that puts the olive trees and lamp stands together. It is Zechariah’s vistion. In the vision we see a golden lampstand with seven lamps and two olive trees. The olive trees drip oil into a bowl that then sends the oil through pipes to feed the lamps. Zechariah asks what this was and the reply was:

14 So he said, “These are the two anointed ones, who stand beside the Lord of the whole earth.”  (Zech. 11:14)

Can we begin to see what the Lord was showing Zechariah through the lamp stand and olive trees? Isn’t this similar to what the Lord showed John? Do we not have Israel and the Church as a witness to the world of God’s plan of Salvation through Christ? Wasn’t the law given to Moses so that men may know their sins against God? And Christ sent to redeem men from their sins? So then the Two Witnesses in Revelation must be Israel and the Church. But even more disctintly, the Law and Grace. God’s witness to the world of their need for Salvation and through Grace, God supplied his Son Jesus Christ as the final sin offering.

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20 Responses to The Two Witnesses

  1. Todd Ott says:

    During the 3 1/2 (42 months) years, the Beast has power over ever nation, tongue, tribe, and has power to wage war against God’s holy people and to conquer them. Multitudes of believers will be beheaded.
    Yet Revelation 11 says that the Beast has no power over the two Witnesses, except at the end of the 42 months when they are killed and lie in the street of Jerusalem, where also our Lord was killed. In addition, the Witnesses have the power to stop the rain, called down plagues on the Beasts kingdom, and kill those who try to harm them.
    If the Beast has power over the Church and Israel during the 42 months, how can the Church and Israel have power over the Beast. It’s a HUGE contradiction that can’t be explained away.
    What makes more sense is the two Witnesses being two people who represent the Church and Israel. In Zechariah, Zerubabbel and Joshua were called the Olive trees and the Lampstand and the two who are anointed to serve the Lord of all the earth. Zerubabbel was a political figure, Joshua a religious figure. It says that they are symbols of things to come.

  2. Al Nelson says:

    Hi Todd, thanks for stopping by.
    “What makes more sense is the two Witnesses being two people who represent the Church and Israel. ”
    I don’t disagree with you there. I think that is the point I was trying to make on this entry.
    Regarding the 42 months, I see a first 3 1/2 years where the witness of Jesus Christ is poured out, then the Beast rises to power to commence a 2nd 3 1/2 year period where persecution comes upon that mighty witness. It may need another blog post, but that’s something that needs to be explained in a better way than I am right now.

  3. Todd Ott says:

    Hi,
    You said you “don’t disagree with me there,” (referring to me saying the Two Witnesses are two people, not Israel and the Church). But in the article you did say, “So then the Two Witnesses in Revelation must be Israel and the Church. But even more disctintly, the Law and Grace…”
    So are they Israel and the Church, two individual people, or both?

    “Regarding the 42 months, I see a first 3 1/2 years where the witness of Jesus Christ is poured out, then the Beast rises to power to commence a 2nd 3 1/2 year period where persecution comes upon that mighty witness.” Are you saying that you believe the Two Witnesses prophesy during the first half of the Tribulation?

  4. Al Nelson says:

    Sorry, I must have missed that you were saying you didn’t think Israel and the Church were not the two witnesses. I must be going blind. 🙂 Anyway when you think of the fact that God established the Law through Israel and revealed His Grace through Christ, then perhaps that would open things up to you. Further more I would encourage you to study what scripture says about what the olive tree represents and what the lamp stand represents. Then apply that knowledge to Rev. 11:4. These are the two olive trees and the two lamp stands standing before the God of the earth. In context it appears this is the first 3 1/2 years.

    Regarding the first 3 1/2 years, Rev. 11 verse 3 says 3″And I will give power to my two witnesses, and they will prophesy one thousand two hundred and sixty days, clothed in sack cloth.” 4 These are the two olive trees and the two lamp stands standing before the God of the earth. If this is in fact the first 3 1/2 years then the witness is described in verses 5 & 6.

    5 And if anyone wants to harm them, fire proceeds from their mouth and devours their enemies. And if anyone wants to harm them, he must be killed in this manner. 6 These have power to shut heaven, so that no rain falls in the days of their prophecy; and they have power over waters to turn them to blood, and to strike the earth with all plagues, as often as they desire.

    Now if we are following the scripture, verse 7 tells us they are overcome by the beast, verse 8 & 9 tells us their bodies will not be buried and be in the open, verse 10 says the world will celebrate the removal of this witness, verse 11 tells us after 3 1/2 years “two witnesses” will rise from the dead.

  5. I would never debate another believer about John’s vision. I do like discussing the vision with other believers because I find that I always gain understanding through the process.

    Here’s my rule 3 for interpreting the vision:

    The interpretation must acknowledge both the literal and figurative aspects of the prophetic texts, ascribing meaning based upon the following rules:

    –It describes literal times, places, and people: therefore, whenever the plain meaning makes sense, it should be accepted plainly; a sound interpretation will not fall short of fully trusting in what God has openly declared.
    –Conversely, whenever a plain [literal] interpretation is nonsensical [such as a harlot sitting upon a scarlet-colored beast], it must be abandoned in favor of a figurative meaning and spiritual application. The symbolism and metaphorical language found in John’s vision must be defined in the following way:
    … by examining similar symbolism and language found in other portions of scripture–for God is consistent in the meaning He applies to the symbols and words found in His text.
    … by examining dreams and visions found in other portions of scripture and noting their chief characteristics and means of interpretation–for God is consistent in how He structures, conceals the meaning of, and reveals these communications.

    P.S. I think the 2 witnesses are Jewish men [these “olive trees” have “bodies” and wear “sackcloth”] who are called to testify to the Jewish people [in the holy city]. The fact that they have power to destroy those who oppose them [and we have the witness beforehand by scripture] is a comfort to the saints in a time of great distress and horrible pressing–and it is symbolic of the fact that Satan has power for “one hour,” as God’s agent [to purify His church]–and therefore, we should patiently continue in well-doing [knowing our great hope and reward].

  6. Of course, this testimony is as much a testimony against the wicked as it is the power of God unto salvation for the righteous–for Jesus said, “If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead,” (Luke 16:31).

    The truth must be established in mouths of at least 2 [2 or 3] witnesses.

    These men wield the same power as Moses [plagues] and Elijah [stopped up the heavens].

    Who are they?

    I guess we’ll find out.

  7. Al Nelson says:

    Hey Mark God Bless you bro! Thanks for the comments. I like your rule on interpreting prophecy in Scripture. If the 2 witnesses are actually 2 Jewish men, then we would have to think about what a Jew is right? For Paul wrote that a believer in Christ (the gentile) is grafted into the promise that came to Israel first. Being born naturally a gentile, but reborn by faith in Christ now makes me part of that promise.
    Even in Revelation we must recognize the Jewishness that is displayed in this New Testament book. From Christ displayed in the beginning as the High Priest to God’s pattern of 2 witnesses.
    Getting to the point I think a believer or believers in Christ could fit the bill in my current understanding. But I would certainly yield to further scriptural understanding the would show a richer picture.

  8. Anonymous says:

    Hi Al and God bless you for speaking to this important subject. I have shared your interpretation of conclusion on who two witnesses are for some 12 years. It’s not a popular view – especially among those Christians who look for the rapture to occur prior to the tribulation. In their mind, the church can no longer be on earth to witness for 1260 days so they will dismiss this notion completely out of hand. This is precisely why understanding who the two witnesses are is so important. I very much believe in the rapture too, but I think the bible reveals that the rapture takes place at the very end of the tribulation just prior to the wrath of God being poured out via the seven vials. I’m not suggesting a post tribulation rapture, but rather the pre-wrath rapture. It all begins to make sense when you apply Daniel’s 70th Week (Daniel 9). This 7-year period of time is clearly divided at the midpoint by an event the Christ himself tells us to look for in Matthew 24 – the abomination that causes desolation in the temple. This is precisely when Satan is cast down to earth from heaven (Revelation 12) knowing he has only a little time (i.e. 1260 days). This is the latter half of the tribulation period – the GREAT TRIBULATION (also known as the time of Jacob’s Trouble). It is a period of 3.5 years, 42 months, 1260 days, a time, times and a half of time. The two witnesses, who you already identified as the church and Israel, will testify for 1260 days during the first half of Daniel’s 70th Week (the first half of the 7-year tribulation). During this time, the two witnesses will be protected by God. I think the fire that comes forth from their mouth is a direct reference to the convicting power of the Holy Spirit. Their testimony will be powerful, and many will be saved. We will witness the true power of the church like never before – it will indeed be its finest hour (if you will). Immediately after the abomination that causes desolation, the forces under the direct control of the AC will hunt down and destroy these two witnesses. This will be a time of unprecedented persecution. Just as Christ gave testimony in Israel for three and a half days – beginning with his triumphant entry into Jerusalem riding on a donkey, to throwing out the money changers from the temple, to telling his disciples the fate of the second temple, to his rebuking of the religious establishment, to his delivery of the Olivet Discourse, to the last supper, to his prayer and then betrayal at Gethsemane, to his trial before Herod and finally Pilate, to his crucifixion and giving up the ghost … were precisely 3.5 days … and what an amazing testimony it was. What happened next? He spent three days in the tomb (like Jonah). Why didn’t he ascend into heaven after three days? Because of Daniel’s 70th Week. He ascended into heaven after 3.5 days – just like the two witnesses! Consider also what Daniel says regarding the 1290th day. The 1290th day comes exactly 30 days after the 1260th day. The two witnesses along with the tribulation saints are called up to be with The Lord at the end of the tribulation period (1260 +1260 = 2520 days or 7 years). The vials are then poured out on the earth (time of wrath) over the next 30 days. There is much more to share on this subject 🙂

    • Al Nelson says:

      Thanks for stopping by. I appreciate much of what you have written. I do think that any witness given in these last days will not be a revival though. As we are going through the great falling away now. I do think some will yet be saved in Christ by this witness.

      20 But the rest of mankind, who were not killed by these plagues, did not repent of the works of their hands, that they should not worship demons, and idols of gold, silver, brass, stone, and wood, which can neither see nor hear nor walk. 21 And they did not repent of their murders or their sorceries[b] or their sexual immorality or their thefts. Rev. 9:20-21

      Which I place at some point within the last 7 years. But I want to re-study the plagues, etc. before I comment too much more to see if the Lord might reveal a bit more to share with us. Feel free me to e-mail me and we can discuss endtime subjects if you like.
      lastdaysoftheage@yahoo.com

      I also like Gavin Finley’s timeline. Google it if you like. God Bless.

  9. Colin Saxton says:

    I believe the two witnesses are the natural olive and the grafted olive (the saved jewish people who are the natural olive and the grafted gentile people). In Ephesians 2 it says Christ makes 2 men 1

    [Eph 2:13-17 KJV] 13 But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ. 14 For he is our peace, who hath made both one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition [between us]; 15 Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, [even] the law of commandments [contained] in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain {two} one new man, [so] making peace; 16 And that he might reconcile both unto God in one body by the cross, having slain the enmity thereby: 17 And came and preached peace to you which were afar off, and to them that were nigh.

    This can easily be tied in with Romans 11 and Zecariah/Revelation 11

    I do fully believe after reading and praying about the two witnesses that it is speaking of the saved jews and the saved gentiles who are the church. Called out ones! That is the ekklesia – that is both the called out jew and the called out gentile…we must come away from separating the church from israel. Both are the people of God. I know that there are many who will say that the church and israel are separate. I believe they are both the same – people of God.

    In the last days there is a falling away – a great falling away in the church and no new fruit comes into the church (because of the apostasy of it all). Instead the wild beasts roam through the vineyard because the watchmen have left the high towers. This is a repeat of what happened to israel when they rejected Christ. The Church today has done the same. People want to be called Christians but they do not follow the words of Christ. I read two prophecies in Isaiah which I think can easily be applied to today. The first is Isaiah 4:1

    [Isa 4:1 KJV] 1 And in that day seven women shall take hold of one man, saying, We will eat our own bread, and wear our own apparel: only let us be called by thy name, to take away our reproach.

    The seven women here I believe are talking of tares amongst the churches (the seven pillars in revelation – the seven golden lampstands) who take hold of Christ saying “We will eat our own bread {live by our own word}, and wear our own clothing {clothe ourselves in our own righteousness} only let us be called by your name {let us be called Christians}, to take away our reproach {so that our sins are forgiven}” That in braces is my interpretation. Take it as you will…that is what I believe the Holy Spirit showed me. They are the brides with no oil in their lamp! They look like Christians, they act like Christians but they have no Holy Spirit – the testimony of Christ is not in their life…no oil!

    The other prophecy is take from Isaiah 32…This I believe can easily be applied to the church age: Lets break it down

    [Isa 32:1-4 KJV] 1 Behold, a king shall reign in righteousness, and princes shall rule in judgment. 2 And a man shall be as an hiding place from the wind, and a covert from the tempest; as rivers of water in a dry place, as the shadow of a great rock in a weary land. 3 And the eyes of them that see shall not be dim, and the ears of them that hear shall hearken. 4 The heart also of the rash shall understand knowledge, and the tongue of the stammerers shall be ready to speak plainly.

    I believe the above verses are talking of the first and second coming of Christ. When Christ came – the simple understood but the theologians (the pharisees) rejected Him. Look what it says “A man shall be as a hiding place from a storm – rivers of water (living water) in a dry place {the word of God not being preached any more but those who have Christ have living water in a dry land}. The shadow of a great rock {Christ} in a weary land {a land which is desolate}” – The man spoke of is Christ linking back to the first verse “a king” – Again “The King of Kings”

    [Isa 32:5-8 KJV] 5 The vile person shall be no more called liberal, nor the churl said [to be] bountiful. 6 For the vile person will speak villany, and his heart will work iniquity, to practise hypocrisy, and to utter error against the LORD, to make empty the soul of the hungry, and he will cause the drink of the thirsty to fail. 7 The instruments also of the churl [are] evil: he deviseth wicked devices to destroy the poor with lying words, even when the needy speaketh right. 8 But the liberal deviseth liberal things; and by liberal things shall he stand.

    How many of us can relate to this today when we have attended churches that preach “peace, peace” where there is no peace (See Jeremiah 23 and Ezekiel 13 and cross reference this). Look at the words when it says “to make empty the soul of the hungry” – how many times have you attended a church and felt “starved almost to death”. The verses the role out and God gives what the true meaning of liberal is. (not what it is today!)

    [Isa 32:9-14 KJV] 9 Rise up, ye women that are at ease; hear my voice, ye careless daughters; give ear unto my speech. 10 Many days and years shall ye be troubled, ye careless women: for the vintage shall fail, the gathering shall not come. 11 Tremble, ye women that are at ease; be troubled, ye careless ones: strip you, and make you bare, and gird [sackcloth] upon [your] loins. 12 They shall lament for the teats, for the pleasant fields, for the fruitful vine. 13 Upon the land of my people shall come up thorns [and] briers; yea, upon all the houses of joy [in] the joyous city: 14 Because the palaces shall be forsaken; the multitude of the city shall be left; the forts and towers shall be for dens for ever, a joy of wild asses, a pasture of flocks;

    I believe this to be a command from God to His people – the vast majority of congregations today are “at ease” and have become “careless” – Laodician in Spirit! Here they are being called to “Repent” – Has not thorns and briers come up within the congregations. Are not congregations rejecting the word of God all around the world today…the palaces are being “forsaken” they have become a joy of “wild flocks” – tares roaming who will not repent and pushing out with their horns the sheep of the Lord…pushing them away. But then these last verses I believe are talking of the times of the two witnesses –

    [Isa 32:15-20 KJV] 15 Until the spirit be poured upon us from on high, and the wilderness be a fruitful field, and the fruitful field be counted for a forest. 16 Then judgment shall dwell in the wilderness, and righteousness remain in the fruitful field. 17 And the work of righteousness shall be peace; and the effect of righteousness quietness and assurance for ever. 18 And my people shall dwell in a peaceable habitation, and in sure dwellings, and in quiet resting places; 19 When it shall hail, coming down on the forest; and the city shall be low in a low place. 20 Blessed [are] ye that sow beside all waters, that send forth [thither] the feet of the ox and the ass.

    God pours out His Spirit (again) in power and glory. There is much more in these verses which speak to me. Notice in verse 19 when it says “When it shall hail, coming down on the forest and the city shall be low in a low place” – I believe that verses 16-18 is speaking of “the hiding place” given to the people of God who are being faithful and trusting in the Lord…when the judgements of God begin to fall on the earth – the hail on the forest. The Lord many times uses trees to talk of men.John the baptist said that “the axe is at the foot of every tree” – Christ talks of the trees without any fruit (no olives, no oil, no sharing of the Holy Spirit). The hiding place can be read in Zeph 3 but lets look how it ties in with verse 19 about (when the city is brought low)

    [Zep 3:1-3 KJV] 1 Woe to her that is filthy and polluted, to the oppressing city! 2 She obeyed not the voice; she received not correction; she trusted not in the LORD; she drew not near to her God. 3 Her princes within her [are] roaring lions; her judges [are] evening wolves; they gnaw not the bones till the morrow.

    Its speaking of a similar situation explained in Isaiah 32:15-20….look at the following:

    [Zep 12-14 KJV] 12 I will also leave in the midst of thee an afflicted and poor people, and they shall trust in the name of the LORD. 13 The remnant of Israel shall not do iniquity, nor speak lies; neither shall a deceitful tongue be found in their mouth: for they shall feed and lie down, and none shall make [them] afraid. 14 Sing, O daughter of Zion; shout, O Israel; be glad and rejoice with all the heart, O daughter of Jerusalem.

    The hiding place is spoken of in Zephania and Psalms

    [Zep 2:3 KJV] 3 Seek ye the LORD, all ye meek of the earth, which have wrought his judgment {performed His commandments with justice…look at Micah 6:8}; seek righteousness, seek meekness: it may be ye shall be hid in the day of the LORD’S anger.

    and

    [Psa 32:6-7 KJV] 6 For this shall every one that is godly pray unto thee in a time when thou mayest be found: surely in the floods of great waters they shall not come nigh unto him. 7 Thou [art] my hiding place; thou shalt preserve me from trouble; thou shalt compass me about with songs of deliverance. Selah.

    All the above verses tie in very well together…

    Eventually the two witnesses are overcome by the beast! and their bodies lay in the streets and the world rejoices over them {Christ said that the world will hate you}. Then God calls them up – {I believe this is talking of the rapture…many times does revelation show different perspectives of the same thing…the last trumpet call…will it not say – “Come up here”}

    And what does the world do…they are afraid…fear strikes them…imagine seeing the rapture of the people of God after you have rejoiced over them being dead. Not being called up…but left on the earth…an unbeliever seeing the rapture must be in utter fear…they will have heard the gospel…they will know what is coming…they will say “rocks fall on us” – “Hide us from the wrath of the lamb!”.

    The church will have tribulation from the persecution of the world but the world will have persecution from the wrath of the lamb! By then we will be called home…after much persecution from the dragon – we must go through a time of persecution from the dragon…I believe that is spoken of in Scripture…reading the olive discourse given by Christ in the 3 gospels (Matthew, Mark and Luke) speaks of that time. But we are called up into glory

    [Psa 73:24 KJV] 24 Thou shalt guide me with thy counsel, and afterward receive me [to] glory.

    This is just what I personally get when I read the scriptures. Some people can agree and disagree with this. I won’t take it to heart – I believe that Christ will reveal portions to different believers and that together (as the body) He reveals the whole…and none of us have all the answers.

    God bless you

    • Al Nelson says:

      Amen Colin, great lesson here. I think we’re looking at two sides of the same coin. I see a duality in the two olive trees and the two lampstands. And yes I concur Israel is the Jew and Gentile saved in Christ. And we still see the law which came from Israel of old that convicts us of sin, sending us to Israel raised up in Christ.

  10. So you’re saying the entire church and Israel will lay dead in the street for 3 1/2 days? Revelation 11:8-9 And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified. And they of the people and kindreds and tongues and nations shall see their dead bodies three days and an half, and shall not suffer their dead bodies to be put in graves.

    • Al Nelson says:

      Hi Dale, what I believe the Lord has shown me is that all who have faith in Christ are Israel, the Body of Christ. Both Jew and Gentile. For those who in the flesh were born into Israel need Christ just as we do if we were born as Gentile. For as Scripture says there is no one righteous unto themselves. Please let me know if I can answer further for you. Blessings.

  11. DIS says:

    Greeting all saints.. The tribulation started 2000 years ago and will continue until the last day. All those that live godly in Christ Jesus will be persecuted. Some more than others… John said to the saints of his day that he was their companion in tribulation. Rev 1-9. What he wrote down in that book is to be a companion to us also.

    The book of Revelation is very symbolic The two witnesses are symbolic of God’s saints. They have 1) the truth of God’s word, and 2)the indwelling of the Holy Spirit. Having these two witnesses within, God’s people are a living testimony of His word though the “empowerment of the Spirit” (grace)..Therefore having their necks under persecution labouring for the gospel having no rest. (((the “labourers in the field” (world) during the great harvest))) Paul said he died daily from the persecutions by beasts at Ephesus. The saints have been laying dead in the streets from the beginning. Why? Because the truth is killed by the apostate church who hates the truth. They want no part of the truth. Many of these two witnesses have been martyred in the sense of physical death down through the ages…They are the 144,000 having no guile….be blessed, Bill

  12. Al Nelson says:

    God Bless you Bill, I agree in part that God’s people have come under persecution at various times at various places over the ages. Scripture and history has bourne this out. I can’t disagree either how you state “The two witnesses are symbolic of God’s saints”. As my post bears that out as well. But a question for you. Do you believe there will be a final witness where God’s Truth is once and for all thrown down and one last great tribulation upon the Saints?

  13. DIS says:

    God bless you too Al…………….The world population at the time of Christ was approx. 250 million. It doubled in 1500AD to 500 million and in 1830 to about 1 billion. Today about 7 billion. I think as things progress the sheer numbers and chaos will mushroom into a final epoch or zenith of apostasy. Whereas Jesus asked when HE returns will HE find any faith on earth? I think things will continue to become darker and darker. He said the only sign that will be given to and evil generation is the prophet Jonah “ie”( repentance is the only sign given) in the same fashion as the Ninevites. I don’t think that is going to happen. The end is not set in stone, and only the Father knows when HIs longsuffering will have ended. The entire Institutionalised system known as Christianity is dispensing the mark of the beast (stigma of sin) wholesale upon her congregations…..Keep the shields up, Bill

  14. DIS says:

    Thanks also to Colin, I gleaned much good understanding from your comment. ………..peace Bill

    • Colin Saxton says:

      Hi Bill, I believe the mark of the beast is a physical mark. Meaning that the world and its technology will be able to detect the mark…because it is used to buy and sell the worlds goods. It doesn’t have to be a chip either. It can be an invisible tatoo of a bar code that can be scanned through ultra violet spectrum…very simple to implement with the technology of today.

      I also believe that you can be part of a local fellowship that “isn’t” perfect. I would have to question what denomination it is under – I wouldn’t attend a Roman Catholic Church for worship?? Depending on how obedient they are the more blessed the fellowship. The reason I have come to this conclusion is because of the church of Sardis which only had a few that were worthy. Laodicea is also “loved” by the Lord that is why He tells them to “repent” and let Him back in!

      • Al Nelson says:

        Colin, hello brother! Well said. I’ve missed hearing from you. Drop a line and let’s catch up. Much has been happening this year and the Lord has been gracious beyond measure as He always is.

    • Colin Saxton says:

      There will be a time when we need to literally “come out of her” but don’t be quick to run away from somewhere that the Lord has placed you in to bring people to Him.

      Blessings and peace

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