An interesting discussion developing on church structure here.
Crown Rights Media brings you another video from the series, Open-air Preacher Profiles, this time on Tony Miano. The footage was captured at the 2012 Revival-Southeast Fellowship Gathering during the Atlanta Dogwood Festival April 20-22. I had the privilege to serve with Tony and get to know him more personally during the weekend, and very much looking forward to more labor with him and other faithful street preachers this summer at our 2012 Summer Olympics missions trip.
Marcus Pittman did an excellent job interviewing Tony and pulling together an important short documentary on some of the issues of concern revolving around street preaching today. Addressed in the video are the following affecting the modern street preaching culture:
- Nomadic street preachers not submitted to any biblical authority under the God-ordained local church structure led by elders. You can watch a complete message on this topic in the following message,
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Many in the reformed churches do not have biblical fellowship yet rail about those who wont join them in their ways. They approve of the reformers leaving rome yet not of anyone leaving romes harlot daughters (THEIR churches). They are like those that say they would have never killed the prophets like rome did.
Matthew 23:31 Wherefore ye be witnesses unto yourselves, that ye are the children of them which killed the prophets. Fill ye up then the measure of your fathers. Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?
Yet, there truly are some out of church people who are rouges – and not by Gods calling either. Somewhere in the middle the simple truth gets lost. We should seek to find a biblical local church or at least a few saints to meet with and submit to. It is my belief that God is gently calling His elect into NT fellowships. I hope our less formal fellowship with saints here will spring into a full NT church one day.
Just some thoughts related to the subject. In Christ -Jim
Excellent thoughts Jim. I appreciate those sentiments. I feel the same way. I have tried many times to call people into true fellowship here. I won’t stop talking about it and praying for it to happen. I try to explain that there should not be one man leading, but the Spirit leads. In that I mean everyone gets a chance to give input as the Spirit would impress upon each person. Perhaps the people I’ve met so far aren’t Spirit filled or won’t have any regard for God’s ways. If there is something wrong with my approach or the way I explain things, I hope and pray the Lord would open my eyes.
BTW what are doing up so late? 🙂 I couldn’t sleep either. Took a nap after dinner and it messed with my sleep pattern!
I agree with both you guys.
I agree with the video that many street preachers are preaching in an insulting way and also preaching law, and seldom do you hear them clearly explain the true Gospel, and express what Jesus is saying to people. That’s been my experience.
With the more crazy ones, yeah, its most likely they are not in any type of accountable relationship to any other believers. True.
I don’t agree one has to be part of a traditional church before they are authorized to preach on the street.
I always remove my hat when preaching:
1Cor 11:4 Every man praying or prophesying, having his head covered, dishonors his head.
“I always remove my hat when preaching:
1Cor 11:4 Every man praying or prophesying, having his head covered, dishonors his head.”
Excellent observation Ian. The part that really bothered me though, is that he was boasting of being under the covering of a pastor. I have no knowledge of any scripture that refers to being “covered” by a pastor. And I would refer back to the same verse you quote in support of that. The false idea of being covered by a pastor further lends to the false support of the institutionalized church and masks Christ’s intent of using all the diversities of gifts in the assembling together.
That’s right bro, there is no such thing as “covering”. We are told to submit to one another. So, the believer who doesn’t submit to anyone is out of order. So, Tony Miano sort of has a point regarding some of the disorderly street preachers who have no real relationship with the Body of Christ, but he goes too far by saying you need a “covering”, as in a hired-clergy type of covering.
Jim said:
“We should seek to find a biblical local church or at least a few saints to meet with and submit to. It is my belief that God is gently calling His elect into NT fellowships. I hope our less formal fellowship with saints here will spring into a full NT church one day.”
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Amen and Amen